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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 19, 2009 3:07pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

good point.
for now a hack that will work is try to upload a 0-byte file.
that will flip on some instructions on how to upload "large files"
without the flash piece.
you should be able to follow those directions to upload w/o flash.

--tracey

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 19, 2009 7:21pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Tracey,

Appoliges, somehow I missed your first name, possibly because some other member was using your surname only. PS, why when I am replying to a posting, can I not see the posting I am relying too?

While I always speak my mind, I never make fun of names, unless of cause, its in humour which the other "victim" party understands and enjoys.

Politeness and respect to ladies like you, is important to me (As us men can not do without you ladies)

Admittedly, recently I gave another lady on the forum a hard time, BUT only after first trying some polite education, which did not sink in, so within minutes I researched her, found out her real motivation, posted that to the forum, and has she been back?

Before that research, just after my first explanation attempt which Gerry emailed me off list, saying it was a good write up by me, I responded to him saying that I believed that request for digitising books felt to me as having commercial motivations, for which I meant, the books requested weren't for personal use, there was something left unspoken.

One member directed her to Glutenberg as a source for her requests, not once did she reply that she was member there, and created E-books herself.

But in all the hits on her name when I searched, NOT ONE hit was anything to do with requesting books to be digitised, or located.

In other words, SHE was USING us AND not being up front.

Please clarify your role with the IA, Tracy. I am hoping to set up an open and frank (and polite) discussion on the changes being made, and changes contemplated, in the interests of all us working together towards a continuing useful Archive.

One suggestion that might help people without the infamous FLASH, is it possible that if there is no option for the future but have FLASH, that an extra front end interface, maybe elsewhere on the WWW could be set up, which non-FLASH users could log into, and do their work, and this separate interface translates into FLASH instructions for the new IA uploading interface, that will only accept FLASH users?

It could even become an Open Source project, to bypass FLASH all over the WWW.

If so, then EVERYBODY will have their needs catered for, and the IA's WW3 will be at an end before it goes thermonuclear.

Peter Lateral Thinker.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 22, 2009 12:13am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

i could be an adobe spy!

an update is trickling out slowly (we just converted our code repository from CVS to a newer "repo" and for various reasons it will unfortunately take all night to update most servers. we'll get/redo the laggards in the morning).

said update will allow a user who does not have flash, does not have it enabled, is having problems with flash, or does not like flash (or make up your own reason) to use the nonflash version of the uploader. this version, i may point out, has been 100% available/working from the start. however, we've been trying to tweak how to show this to users w/o cluttering and confusing their page. thus, it was not easily discovered until this week.

tomorrow or early next week we will update further to have something like a "not flash" link on the [Share] button area to go right to the nonflash version.

--tracey




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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffLum Edwards Date: Aug 23, 2009 5:28pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Hiya Miss Tracey, I just thought I would hop in here and say Thank You for you hard work, No complaints here, I think the new share button works wonderfully after I got used to it. I went from 146kb/s to 260kb/s uploading, Very nice. I wish I could have the drop down menu to load direct to OTR or Classic TV instead of just going to open source but thats not a biggie.

Again Thanks for all you do. I know its a thankless job so I wanted you to know That it is appreciated.


Mike D

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Poster: garthus Date: Aug 24, 2009 5:56am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Tracey,

Yes; I tested it on some journals I was working on:

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=long%20Island%20Forum%20AND%20mediatype%3Atexts

Other than a few problems with the ISP at my end, it wokred well running on Kmeleon.

Gerry

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 27, 2009 12:34pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

thanks gerry for letting us know!

(and for the record, i wouldn't say that either you or "Time Traveller" sort of "shook us up" or made Brewster capitulate or something. mostly, we've been aware there's been some vaguely reported issues w/ the uploader and hadn't had the time/prioritization to really go after them (and from end, didn't have good ideas on how to fix a few suspected issues). i finally got time/brainpower to dive into things, actively solicit issues, and really start (and hopefully continue to for a bit) to go after them and fix them in earnest).

glad we are collectively making The Archive a better place!

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 27, 2009 8:41pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Just for the record, I believe if it was not for us shaking things up, we would still have been both waiting for repairs, and waiting to hear from you.

After all, you never bothered telling people there was a known issue, so people WASTED their time reliving they were at fault.

And once you became aware of the issue, did you ever think of reverting backwards, or were you using us as guinea pigs while you were trialling and erring?

Ms Tracy, maybe you had your priorities wrong, but wont admit it.

How long does a brief posting to the Forum take, to keep members informed and not annoyance?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 27, 2009 9:37pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

oh TT, seems like there's often a 'blame first'...

my #1 priority is keeping data safe. so anything that is risking damage to our enormous archive takes priority.

we get a lot of people who aren't reporting accurately or confused about what they say and so it takes time to sort out reports, anecodes, etc.

lastly, it's not like i had a list of 3-10 known bugs that i sat on and laughed at struggling people while saying nothing. you think i want to take a lot of guff in forums or elsewhere? 8-)

no there were suspected unreproducible issues and vague reports so i suspected various issues and bugs were there but needed to find help identifying the problem(s) and then trying to fix/workaround.

the "non-port 80 blocking" was the most extensive fix yet with an entire overhaul of all the communication/flow.

anyway, we're doing what we can as we can.

think of us like a library in your hometown. understaffed, overrun, underfunded, but still trying to do everything they can to keep the patrons as happy as they possibly can. it's really like that here, honest.

you'd be surprised to know how few tech coders there are here...
-t


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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 1:12am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

one minute was all it takes to post a warning that you thought there might be trouble with the new Flash, I do know you work unpaid, you are busy, but you are NOT unique, ARE YOU?

So, one minute to post a warning or message.

I am now thinking, that the truth is, you HAD NOT though about telling people anything, hoping it would be resolved before anybody got badly affected.

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 1:18am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

sorry for the double up, but seems the forums need the attention of Tracy's skills now

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 1:23am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

By the way, I have noticed my library being understaffed, maybe its because they show respect to their patrons.

The other thing is Pooh, I went polite and used your first name once I noticed it, I have been signing off as Peter, yet al the respect you show is to use TT.

Yes, I have noticed there is a shortage of Tech Coders, so I am sadden that all the Archive could get was YOU.

More than once Gerry offered his help, he is immensely more experienced than you.

As i said, it takes just ONE minute to post a notice about issues on the Archive.

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 1:29am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

correction, I have NOT noticed my library being unstaffed

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 28, 2009 10:01am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Peter,
sorry about using tt -- i was typing a quick response before bed and remembered your handle was Time Traveler but wasn't 100% sure that i was right to recall you had signed "Peter" in prior posts.

-tracey

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 9:32pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

You are forgiven Tracy.

I admit I am glad you fixed everything that broke when you went FLASH

Peter

Ps, is it all fixed? Takes just one minute to post and tell us, so how about a "Status of IA" notice?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 28, 2009 9:43pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Peter,

As far as I know, there are no known bugs or issues from my end.
I *did* just push a small suggested change to make it more obvious
not to press the "sample" [share] button (and that instead we mean
to press the [share] button in the upper right corner (near the login)).

other than that, that's it from my end.

(of course, I'm sure that there are some browser/OS combos out there
that could be having troubles by the very nature of javascript -- but
every place I have looked to re-solicit info/reports, etc. I haven't heard
any bugs/issues since checking in the last few days)

(the last major bug was another person had issues that he and i worked through which ultimately proved to be due to his work blocking non-80 ports to the internets).

--tracey, 136 years old now ;-)

This post was modified by tracey pooh on 2009-08-29 04:43:10

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 9:50pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Dear Tracey, 136 years old now and counting,

We at least agree about your age too.

Have a great weekend

Peter, 150 and counting down

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 1:12am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

one minute was all it takes to post a warning that you thought there might be trouble with the new Flash, I do know you work unpaid, you are busy, but you are NOT unique, ARE YOU?

So, one minute to post a warning or message.

I am now thinking, that the truth is, you HAD NOT though about telling people anything, hoping it would be resolved before anybody got badly affected.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Stafftracey pooh Date: Aug 28, 2009 10:07am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

and for the record so you don't have something else to hammer me on

i *am* a paid member of the archive staff.
(i have been here 5 years this "stint" (did another job for 4 years in the middle) and was here for 4 years prior to that)

--"pooh"

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 28, 2009 9:30pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

That makes you close to 135-years old, Tracey

I hope they pay you well enough, in perks, unlimited downloads of the stock in trade

Peter

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Poster: garthus Date: Aug 27, 2009 12:45pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Tracey,
I really am not interested in shaking things up; just as an engineer; I am almost fanatical about optimizing systems and things that I do personally. Think it would be better for everyone to work together for the Archive as a common goal; probably better to do it on the developer list. I tried sending messages to that list but keep getting bounced. Like the method for deleting unwanted file sets automatically that I posted on the text forum just now; however I just do not know where the best place is to present that type of information. I think that I have over 90 collections in the digital library that I set up for my organization. I am trying to convince them to move the entire operation over to the archive and am presently writing some grants to hopefully fund a front-end to allow our users to place the items in specific collections more easily. Probably if I can get the funding, the archive developers would be the place to go to get this done. OCLC is just terrible and comparing Contentdm to the Archive is like comparing a garbage dumpster to the Mona Lisa.

I would like to set up at least 20 more collections for the materials which I am putting up from my personal collection; but the process is not as simple as it could be. What I do on my sites is to have Header and footers which I control and them have form objects on the web pages which are stored in a MYSQL DM. Users with access can then go into a restricted access part of the site and update everything which they have the permission to update. I could simply fill in templates for each collection, which would take a lot of work load off of the person responsible for maintaining the increasing number of collections. I do not mind maintaining the template for my own collection. Just that the current way takes much to long. I just started a large batch of public domain comics; but not collection page yet. I understand how busy it must be there, so this is not a criticism. Thank you for the good work, actually your file uploads work much better than Contentdm, I won’t bore you with the reasons; but I am much more productive with this Interface than with theirs.

Gerry

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 22, 2009 6:03pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Tracy,

Amazing, Gerry was unaware of your >>>>surrender<<<< message.

I have enlighten him, he will be commenting as soon as he recovers from the shock.

Peter

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 22, 2009 1:52am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Tracey,

Your answer to how to tell people re uploading

Two big buttons, labelled as

> The easy no-frills way to upload

> The complicated, secruity hazard, risky, cookie riddled FLASH way to try and upload something, use at your own risk.

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Poster: Time Traveller Date: Aug 22, 2009 1:33am
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Tracey

I AM surprised!!!!! I thought I would never hear from you again.

Did Brewster get upset with our comments, and got stuck into you in frustration? Maybe the hair I lost 15-years ago, will grow back now.

But then, noting your first sentence, what does Adobe need spies for, unless of-cause, you mean that you yourself are a FLASH COOKIE?

Of-cause you are the lady in charge of making the Archive more complicated, and now have learnt the error of your ways. (for now?)

I was not worried so much about Adobe, I was more worried that Brewster might forget our rights to free speech.

But then, the genie is out of the bottle already, once I found that Wiki exposé on FLASH, we turned out attentions towards Adobe.

8-hours ago Gerry emailed me off list saying "I think we shook them [Brewster and Co] up."

Tell Brewster thanks, and give yourself a pat on the back too, but, be aware we will be watching, and WE dont need cookies or spies to do that.

Peter

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Poster: garthus Date: Aug 22, 2009 7:52pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Pooh,

Actually I use both methods, Flash interface in my office and non-flash when I am using linux at home. The flash uploader has the advantage of uploading the item while working on it. And I have to admit that it appears to be faster. Some browsers like midori and arora seem to lock up more often when they are running the flash applet. I think iceweasel handles it the best, actually better than mozilla on windows. Running it on linux is not really a problem if it works. My issues are with how invasive those plugins are on the windows platform. I have fixed this in my hacked version of XP. Since the dangerous registry keys are deleted, I only allow flash to have access to certain keys.
However none of this is an issue if we can upload with both flash and non-fash interfaces. I still would much prefer the previous way of uploading; but a choice of both aptions is the best of all possible worlds.

Gerry

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Poster: garthus Date: Aug 22, 2009 10:12pm
Forum: texts Subject: Re: Shockwave flash and share button

Pooh,

Just an aside; I drive a 1969 Chevrolet Pickup and a 1974 Plymouth Valiant. Even though my specialty is in handling complex systems; in real life I prefer simplicity. But that is another story.